664: An Atheist Says America Needs Jesus with Jonathan Rauch

Apr 9, 2025 · 1h 27m

Donald Trump launched a global trade war because he thinks America's trade deficit makes us "losers," but does he even understand what a trade deficit is? Phil introduces a new segment full of statistics that make Kaitlyn and Skye groan. And they discuss David Brooks' new article in The Atlantic, which compares this moment in U.S. history to the era of Andrew Jackson, and offers hope for what may come after MAGA. Skye interviews Jonathan Rauch about his new book, "Cross Purposes." Rauch, an atheist, says his antagonism toward Christianity changed when he came to see how vital it is to American democracy and why evangelicals' failure to follow Jesus is putting the whole country at risk. Holy Post Plus: Bonus Interview with Jonathan Rauch https://www.patreon.com/posts/125941930/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126225451/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:05 - Theme Song 3:30 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 4:35 - Sponsor - Blueland - Get up to 25% off your first order by going to https://www.Blueland.com/HOLYPOST 7:12 - Stock Market Cra…

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